tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6397343413597691904.post3456694788516781453..comments2022-03-27T19:09:06.266-04:00Comments on Veritas in caritate: "Mystery of Faith" in ASLMatthew-Anthony G. Hysellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05642403595655986371noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6397343413597691904.post-59954075186576168802009-03-07T23:55:00.000-05:002009-03-07T23:55:00.000-05:00I agree, it might miss the mark. Hence the "dynami...I agree, it might miss the mark. Hence the "dynamic equivalency" disclaimer. But if we <I>include</I> a pre-Augustinian definition of sacrament, i.e. Tertullian's original suggestion, it might be helpful.<BR/><BR/>I agree with your assessment of "Do this in memory of me." It includes a "looking back" of sorts, but we run the risk of missing the Jewish understanding of anamnesis, making a past event a present reality. Since it involves time, it would be complex.<BR/><BR/>I'm interested in hearing suggestions.Matthew-Anthony G. Hysellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05642403595655986371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6397343413597691904.post-72432082937597718762009-03-07T23:23:00.000-05:002009-03-07T23:23:00.000-05:00You maybe have had contact with Fr. Paul Z as he i...You maybe have had contact with Fr. Paul Z as he is considering how better to communicate the meaning of much of the readings and the text of the Mass. I'm glad for these discussions.<BR/><BR/>We know that in the Eastern Catholic and Orthodox Churches they indeed use the word "mystery", from the Greek, where we Latins use the word "sacrament", from the Latin. <BR/><BR/>I suspect 90% or more of the hearing Latin Rite Catholics in the pew translate the word "mystery" in "mystery of our faith" the way we usually see it inadequately signed in ASL. They also have a pretty firm idea about what a "sacrament" means ("outward signs of inward grace, instituted by Christ for our sanctification"), so I'm guessing "SACRAMENT [OF] BELIEF or FAITH" would equally miss the mark.<BR/><BR/>I'd want to explore more what does this mean? I don't know... Is it something like "Let us proclaim the (GIFT directional from above to self) of our faith..."?<BR/><BR/>Another place, among many, where I think we misrepresent the intent is in "Do this in memory of Me" with REMEMBER (or LOOK BACK).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6397343413597691904.post-33990575013819395752009-03-07T02:17:00.000-05:002009-03-07T02:17:00.000-05:00Profound insight to what for a long time has been ...Profound insight to what for a long time has been assumed the word meant, puzzle, or blurry thought. Hence the reason one ASL sign is PUZZLE ON FOREHEAD + BLURRY IN FRONT OF FACE = RELIGIOUS MYSTRY.<BR/><BR/>Therefore my new understanding, unmeditated, is that one enters into something new and profound. Not something not understood, but something beyond what we experience on the everyday life. My knee jerk response to what would be a good ASL is something more along the lines of:<BR/><BR/>MIND OPEN + FAITH + ACCEPT. One of course must pray on this to come up with perhaps a more appropriate idea of ASL convey of concept. Thanks for a great post.<BR/>Nancy LouiseDennisMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09085061866865352492noreply@blogger.com